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ghostchaser
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Jun 12, 2013, 1:10 PM
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Cannot get the car to start. can hear fuel pump running. also tried to start using starting fluid and still no luck. seems to be electrical but not a clue where to start. can someone give some ideas so I do not spend an excessive amount of funds. trying to get my grandson back on
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Tom Greenleaf
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Jun 12, 2013, 1:21 PM
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Which engine? If priming with starting fluid did nothing then check for spark then on to compression test a few if you are convinced it has spark.
Begin there and do say what engine, distributorless (coil packs) or what for ignition,
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v-6 engine. Coil pack. had this problem once before =, but after a couple of days, it just started right up. ran for about 2 weeks and then died again while he was driving. now will not start at all. engine turns over fine. Had a friend to tell me how to check for spark at spark plug, but got nothing when I checked. (Pulled out one of the plungs and grounded it against the motor. Ram starter and saw no spark at the plug)
(This post was edited by ghostchaser on Jun 12, 2013, 1:51 PM)
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Tom Greenleaf
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Jun 12, 2013, 4:46 PM
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Arggh - 2.8 "W" motor this could be trouble to peg fault and be sure as it's intermittent. Trouble with that is several possible things could fail for no spark if you test method really worked.
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- The crankshaft position sensor identifies position of the crankshaft to the ignition control module (ICM), engine control module (ECM) or powertrain control module (PCM)
- When not replaced, vehicle could experience no- or hard start, long crank time, misfire, lack of power, excessive hydrocarbons in oil, spark plug fouling, catalytic converter failure, poor fuel economy, CEL/MIL illumination or intermittent shutdown
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The crank position sensor could do this with assorted malfunctions of no spark and possible to have no fuel pressure at same time. You need to catch all when it happens while it's NOT starting or things would test out proper. I don't think the so called computer has a memory to even suggest what is dropping out.
Gets worse, you could replace items and it could work for a time just by chance and never know for sure if it's fixed or not until it never happens again for a good long time.
Parts tossing is never a preferred or cheap way to approach these problems. This should have a coil pack low front of car end/side of engine and a module under it with lots of wires such that connections there or anywhere giving it info be intermittent.
Extensive testing of ignition parts alone could be inconclusive so it just may take some educated guessing, looking at the plug-in connections and a WAG (Wild Arse Guess) at the most likely. CPS is at least cheap if you want to try it.
More bad news. I think some of these also ran current thru oil pressure switch such that connection or switch could possibly cut out both spark and fuel pressure at the same time.
About can't be sure of anything at the age of it ( a factor) and early for this ignition technology that I don't think can remember what dropped out but try to get a code reading anyway.
Last, I say getting pro help will be a good bet. If car is in generally good shape overall it's probably worth putting some money into it still,
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