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Tonealive
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Apr 5, 2016, 10:46 PM
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Unknown wires severed near headlights
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Hi everyone, first time post, first time car diy fix attempt. I was in a small collision that messed up the front driver's side of the car- headlight, bumber cover brace and bracket all messed up. got all those new parts but the low and high beams arent turning on.. the blinker is though. there is also a strand of 4 or 5 or 6 wires that is severed that looks like it leads to the headlight area but the connections that go to the blinker and low and high beams are still all there, intact and hooked up correct into the new headlight. so, is the severed strand of wires supposed to be connected to the low or high beam strand somewhere cause I dont see where that would occur. every thing else electrically is working on the car. any help would be great!
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Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 6, 2016, 1:17 AM
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IDK - Do this with someone with auto body experience as it's damage repair. You can't even tell us whether it's 4-5 or 6 wires cut/severed so you are stuck already. We don't have a crystal ball to know more than YOU, the person who could look and see it or get help.
Have you ever even properly spliced wire if only for practice?
I can only suggest getting an estimate from an autobody repair shop in person to at least point out what damage has to be found and fixed then decide if you wish to learn how to do it and have tools to do so,
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Hammer Time
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Apr 6, 2016, 2:03 AM
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What color is your Maserati?
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Discretesignals
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Apr 6, 2016, 4:29 AM
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Did you have a body shop repair the damage? If so, you should take it back because they missed something.
Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 6, 2016, 5:55 AM
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This person seems to want to learn to fix this first time DIY. I'm lost if he/she is lost with what's even really damaged on what type of thing, car, truck, Maserati or what?
There are more than a few things in the world I don't want people to learn alone or do alone first time. Pilot the commercial airliner and do open heart surgery come to mind.
OK - its a vehicle with broken wires. I/we can't see if plain cut to fix or pulled out beyond repair or what so if you guys and suggest what to do with no info please loan me that crystal ball - hard to know what to suggest on this as said,
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Tonealive
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Apr 6, 2016, 7:48 AM
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Thanks everyone for responding, and sorry, I forgot to mention that it's a 2004 Honda Accord EX. not sure where the idea that it was a Maserati came from! But anyway, I HAVE spliced and soldered wires before, no problem. and there are 5 wires in the clump that is severed. Also, I have taken it to a body shop and they came back with a quote for $2000. that is where I got the three exact parts and their part numbers that I mentioned in my first message - the headlight, bumper bracket, and bumper brace - I have all those new parts now.
So where I am at now, I have the front left fender off and broken bumper pulled back, all the old broken stuff cleared out and that is where I found the three leads that go to the low beam, high beam, and blinker sockets all in good shape and I've installed them into the new headlight. but there is that extra clump of 5 wires that are severed that are just starting to lead into the front left of the car near the headlight, but I dont see anything else in that area that is severed, so I have no idea what that clump was for, but the headlight doesn't work.. so I thought someone might know if it would be related to the headlight. All of the fuses that have to do with the headlights specifically are all ok too.
Any ideas?
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Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 6, 2016, 8:12 AM
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OK - You found cut wires that need to be reconnected/spliced back together properly if enough wire is available. Find the other ends from where it was cut at least! If not where did they go?
If not enough wire when ready it's another problem up to your call on junk yarding a new section or what the issue is in front of you with a car I'll say this new.
Here's a YouTube on how you do a single wire splice. It's not exactly always right for every situation so a judgment call on the best fix.
Link> https://www.youtube.com/...lBEkriq6xilcMrXpTsiA
That's a good way. There are cheap, easy ways that don't last too without much for tools not even a soldering iron.
There's nothing to do yet till you find the missing ends and situation. If they pulled out of a plug that's an entire different approach.
Costs for proper work - body work too does get expensive and does for a reason - it's not all DIY work but experience and the tools to do it and know what will last.
I totally understand people want to save money but some things are not saving you anything up to costing more for a failure which is why about 100% of automotive skills are first taught by another or some things a talented DIYer knows what to do looking for info and I personally can't make this a tech school lesson from step one to completion for damage still unknown by you. YOU have to at least know where you can and where you shouldn't mess around at a minimum.
Step one: Find the missing other ends. They were cut so should show the same color insulation then you know you have them all and go from there,
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Tonealive
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Apr 6, 2016, 12:10 PM
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Yeah, I cant find the other end. maybe what was severed fell out of the car at the accident scene. maybe it's not related at all to the headlights. If someone knew what all four clumps going into the headlight area did that would probably solve the first part of the puzzle because we know what the other three are. what would the mechanic at a shop do? are there visual diagrams of sections of cars to know what it should look like and what should be attached to what?
(This post was edited by Tonealive on Apr 6, 2016, 12:13 PM)
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Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 6, 2016, 12:42 PM
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That $2,000 bucks to fix this is looking better isn't it?
Sport - It's been in an accident. There's no uniform way things are damaged.
Wires could and probably do go into a harness of some type of wrap to neaten up the looks and keep wires in place both. If you just have cut off wires how far do they reach?
Maybe best thing to do is go find the EXACT car - model and year in a pick your own junkyard and find one that is there with all this stuff where it belongs and where it goes.
I don't know of even a pro edition or wiring editions that specify exactly how wires are routed and what holder are used to keep a harness in place. Diagrams will show color of wire insulation in a diagram. Colors will be assorted and with or without colored stripes to identify them. In a diagram that will be abbreviated like "blk" for black and so on for the stripe if so.
From here this can only be the wildest of guesses if the really cut, pulled out of a loom (mean harness) or what.
IDK - guess the first thing I'd do it find out the range the cut ones reach and look in those areas for the other ends if there at all. If this damage was enough thing all fell off you are way over your head to easily DIY this as a first timer,
T
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