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younglife07
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Apr 28, 2009, 10:49 PM

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I was excited to see the little fire icon because currently I'd like to torch this car. I own a 2000 Taurus that is constantly giving me trouble now with the coolant system. Problems started two months ago and we've run out of ideas to fix this. The system seems to be losing fluid while driving; there's pressure building up in the reservoir and fluid is being forced out from the cap. But also when the car is just parked it is also losing fluid although we're not finding any under the car. We've checked the oil and there isn't any anti-freeze in that. Also we've checked the exhaust system and it's not leaking through that. We took the thermostat out which worked for a while until the problems started up again. We've flushed the system out several times thoroughly. We just replaced the water pump which we came to believe was the ultimate problem because the inner fan that actually forces the water through the system was completely stripped. After replacing that and putting in a new thermostat it worked great during a test drive and then a longer drive. But then after wards when I went to drive it again there was absolutely no fluid in the reservoir. What other things can we check for?


Hammer Time
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Apr 29, 2009, 1:17 AM

Post #2 of 14 (1758 views)
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Your problems may have started with a bad water pump but at this point the subsequent overheating has likely caused a blown head gasket or cracked head.
The damage to the water pump could indicate excessive rust buildup in the system that would have been the result of not using the correct mix of coolant. You will need to pressure test the cooling system and possibly do a chemical test to test for exhaust vapors in the cooling system.



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younglife07
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Apr 29, 2009, 4:58 PM

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I will for sure have those two test done. The head gaskets were checked as was the block. We've found no crack anywhere so I'm hoping to say thats not the problem seeings how that's so serious. I can say with certainty that the wrong fluids were put into the system. When I bought the car the whole system had to be flushed because the guy who had the car before me had put brake fluid into the coolant system. It had gotten so bad it was like rusty clay and was actually drying so badly it was flaking into a powder. After a second flush it seemed fine, and that was almost a year before this all started. But now after a few more test drives the coolant mixture has turned that rust color again.


wisecountyguy
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Jun 18, 2009, 7:04 PM

Post #4 of 14 (1685 views)
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Your best bet is to call it quits on the Taurus. I had the exact same problem, as many others I know who own/owned a taurus of that year model give or take a couple years. Reservoir kept cracking, exhaust is seeping into the coolant system, changed water pump, thermostat, used correct coolant, did the flush thing every year since I owned it. In short, I treated and maintained that car better than I would a princess and she still "frosted me like I was a cake". I can now only drive it MAYBE 10 minutes and all the water has boiled out... I stopped using anti-freeze because I was going thru a case a week... so NO, straight water DID NOT cause this... the dreaded 4 letter F word caused it.. FORD


Hammer Time
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Jun 18, 2009, 8:58 PM

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so NO, straight water DID NOT cause this.


Well, wisecountyguy, I don't know how you came to that conclusion but your certainly not accurate. Since you couldn't seem to solve your own problem, you shouldn't be giving advice to other people on the subject.
Running water in the cooling system WILL cause severe cooling system problems and should never be done.



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wisecountyguy
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Jun 19, 2009, 4:48 AM

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Well if you read my post correctly, for the 8 years I had the Car, I used the correct antifreeze/water mixture in the car and it still took a crap on me. Once the head cracked and it kept boiling out the antifreeze and I replaced everything on the engine. All the while STILL using a 50/50 mixture. I decided the heck with it and started using plain tap water. The engine was already shot. I know plenty of ppl with the same problem with their fords and most of them take them to the dealership for flush/service. It's not lack of maininance or mistreating the engine. Simply put, fords are disposable cars. After 100k get ready to buy a new one.

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Hammer Time
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Jun 19, 2009, 4:56 AM

Post #7 of 14 (1669 views)
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That would be your opinion, an extremely uneducated opinion and simply untrue. You can make any conclusion you wish on your vehicle but don't post them here and represent them as fact.
If you have a question about your own vehicle, you can start a question of your own but don't give advise if your not trained in the field.



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wisecountyguy
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Jun 19, 2009, 5:04 AM

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So what your saying is after doing a compression test and seeing that there is a cracked head and giving up using the antifreeze mixture because it was costing 100 a month in antifreeze that I don't know what I am talking about. So I guess my dad, who is a gm certified mechanic, wo had been fixing these problems for years, simply told me wrong. If the head is cracked, I could run koolaide in the system and do no more damage.


Sidom
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Jun 19, 2009, 5:39 AM

Post #9 of 14 (1661 views)
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Ok, your hate Fords.....Got it.
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What's the point of continuing this thread? Every manufactor has pattern failures.. You want to drive your car until it blows fine, makes it easier to diag. Just don't give others bad advise..
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Lets move on this really isn't accomplishing anything constructive anymore


wisecountyguy
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Jun 19, 2009, 5:50 AM

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Still not sure what "advise" I am giving anyone. Just stating what happened to me and 5 others I know. If I were the only one with the problem, then yeah I would say I messed something up. My other car is a 15 yr old Honda and it's fine. All I know is how I treated MY car and what I went through. And yes after paying 20,000 for it, and it having those problems at 90k miles, yeah I do hate fords. Tho it seems I'm not the only one.


Hammer Time
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Jun 19, 2009, 6:12 AM

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I'm sure there are many "I hate Fords" forums. In the meantime don't contradict me when I tell someone not to run water in there car at this forum.

I'm finished here and won't be responding to you again.



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wisecountyguy
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Jun 19, 2009, 6:26 AM

Post #12 of 14 (1647 views)
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Never ONCE did I say it's ok to use straight water in a coolant system nor have I ever done so. Get your head out of your a$$ and pay attention to what I said. Your the reason most ppl hate mechanics. You won't listen and are ALWAYS right


(edit out language) (BTW - this type of bashing both a vehicle and techs won't be tolerated here by me - for now this stands - but will think about deleting entire thread, TomG)


(This post was edited by Tom Greenleaf on Jun 21, 2009, 9:46 PM)


Sidom
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Jun 19, 2009, 7:00 AM

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I decided the heck with it and started using plain tap water. . . If the head is cracked, I could run koolaide in the system and do no more damage.

You need to calm down. Not only did you say you did it. You implied you could do it with out damage. That is the bad advise someone is gonna take and drive an engine that a top end repair would fix & wind up taking the whole engine out.
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Just because your father is technician doesn't mean the knowledge transfers....obviously it doesn't.
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Ok.....You hate Fords, Hammer time & Sidom.......got it.....Lets end this.......K.
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Now I'm down as well........ Go ahead......last word is yours


(This post was edited by Sidom on Jun 19, 2009, 7:01 AM)


stoli1979
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Jun 20, 2009, 5:03 AM

Post #14 of 14 (1625 views)
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Wow, this is one heated forum. OMG!!! Yeah, I think everybody ends up with a lemon at some point in their life. I've replaced motor on a 94 prelude at 110,000 miles and had a no start on a CRV that turned out to be a broken timing belt at 95,000 miles. On the other hand my dad has a 93 F-150 with almost 200,000 miles that runs great and has for years. My nephew got my 94 escort last year which was my second car and still no major engine problems. And the escort has to have a million miles on it by now. Sorry you and your friends have had car problems, but dude, don't tell this guy that his car is junk because you got a lemon. Which by the way guy with the Taurus, I think I jump on the band wagon and say your head gasket is busted. If you don't have coolant under your car when it's parked. It's not all over your motor and it is still vanishing from the reservoir, it has to be going somewhere. I bet if you pressure test it and then start your car you'll see at least some white smoke from the exhaust. Might not be much. But enough to let you know where you're coolant is going. Yeah, my dad had a trooper before his ford that had a blow head gasket and was acting the same way. After a pressure test we started the car up and the whole neighbor hood was covered in white smoke. Trooper head gasket, not fun, not fun at all.






 
 
 






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