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timh916
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Jan 14, 2014, 1:20 PM
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HHO & Fuel Vaporizers
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Are Fuel Vaporizers and HHO systems any good or are they just scams? I want to get 80MPG on a compact minivan.. Possible? Resources to buy? Thanks
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kev2
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Jan 14, 2014, 2:06 PM
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no - if they worked WHY would the manufacturers not utilize them?
Keep it STOCK - use only OEM - do not modify or change ANYTHING and it will perform as advertised.
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nickwarner
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Jan 14, 2014, 4:17 PM
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I want to get 80MPG on a compact minivan.. Possible?
I want a girlfriend that lactates cold beer, but that isn't going to happen any sooner than that is either.
If it was possible to do that with the cheap DIY stuff some idiot on YouTube say work, trust me the engineers at the car factory would've already done this because the government has a CAFE (corporate average fuel economy) standard that they must meet and it increases every single year. My motorcycle can't even get 80mpg, there is no way to make that on a minivan with an internal combustion engine. That goal is one for science fiction.
Had a few friends who tried the HHO systems against my advice. One had to have his truck towed in a month later. None of them ever could register a decent gain in the MPG, and it created a lot of codes when it was running. Its not worth it. If you had an old mechanical diesel and wanted to run it on used fryer oil, I'd say that one is doable if you follow some prudent advice. The idea that you can get MPG gains from bubbling water is a dud.
Yes, you can make the water create bubbles. Yes, you can collect that gas into a balloon and light it up for a parlor trick. Can it create enough fuel to power a vehicle even partially? No. Ford even tried an experiment a few years back using pure hydrogen in a compressed tank to see if it was a viable fuel. Problem is, it has a fraction of the thermal energy of gasoline. Their test mule was a Triton V-10, which is a rather healthy engine on gasoline. They bolted on not one but two superchargers (not going to get much engine life with that) which a gas engine wouldn't even be able to take. The max horsepower they made was 385, about what a stock gasoline engine could create.
With that in mind, how is some little bubble going to even partially fuel an engine? Also, introducing extra fuel that the ECM did not inject into it will create rich codes if you can get enough into it. This in turn will cause the fuel trims to be erratic and keep the engine light on. Not a good thing.
A minivan in good tune and driven well will return a highway MPG in the low to upper 20's depending on model for most vehicles. My last Caravan was pretty decent at about 26, the Venture I had before that never seemed to get past 20. It is what it is. My Bronco can do 16 on a decent day, and the Camry I bought my girl pulls 30-32. I am pleased with those results as that is what I can expect from them and its around what they were rated at from the factory.
If you need to get 80mpg, a 49cc moped can be had for $1000 and can do that. Anything bigger, nope.
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Discretesignals
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Jan 15, 2014, 5:50 AM
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How about this for more power:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7nRRykiOGc
Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
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timh916
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Jan 16, 2014, 4:59 PM
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Haha ok thanks for clarifying. One day it will be possible, I hope. Peace
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nickwarner
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Jan 17, 2014, 8:31 AM
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That will be the day I propose for sure.
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