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KBWood
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Jul 5, 2010, 7:56 PM

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95 Pont. Transport 3.1 won't start. It has been running fine till yesterday. I was flushing the cooling loop every which way, so I had a little water under the hood in places, but nothing I hadn't done before. When I started it up to rotate the water thru to flush again, I seen a puddle of water on top of the air filter housing. This evidently is from the hard rain we've been having (not from my hosing out lines). It appears that it leaks under my windshield into the engine area maybe? Anyway, after I shut it off and soaked up the water on top of the air filter housing and drained radiator. I filled it up again, and went to start it, and it hasn't started since. After taking off the cover, I seen a little moisture in there, but can't tell if it actually had water in there big time. Did I get water down in where the injectors are? If so, what has to be done for this thing to turn over. I'm in real trouble here, as this is my work van, and I could get a call for a job anytime.


Sidom
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Jul 5, 2010, 9:06 PM

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If I'm not mistaken, I believe that one still has a dist in it....... Take the coil wire off and check for spark, if it has spark then pull a plug wire and see if there is spark there as well.

Also double check where you were working and make sure you didn't know anything loose AND get a test light and check your fuses as well..........


KBWood
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Jul 6, 2010, 2:12 PM

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I just pulled a plug and wire off, put them back together against metal and checked for spark. It wasn't blue but it did spark white. I didn't do the coil wire first, but if the plug and wire sparked, does that mean the coil is ok?


Sidom
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Jul 6, 2010, 6:46 PM

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That's not the most accurate way to test for spark. A this point it might be a good idea to see if it will run on carb clean. If it does then you've narrowed the field down to a fuel problem....

Next you would want to check fuel pressure, injector pulse.

I'm going to be gone a while but once you find those answers, I'm sure someone else will help you out in tracking this down......

You don't want to throw parts at it, but if you can get your hands on a "known good" module. It wouldn't hurt to try that...

Now this is assuming you've already checked everything else I've suggested (fuses), gotta look at the basics 1st...


KBWood
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Jul 7, 2010, 8:08 PM

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Fuses are all good. It is spraying fuel from both injectors, so I think it's still spark related. I got a multimeter from a friend and was gonna test ohms at the coil in the 3 different ways recommended. The darn test lead doesn't fit into the 4 holes after connectors are removed on the coil, so I couldn't even get a readout. There has to be a way to use this $100 meter on this coil, right?


Hammer Time
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Jul 8, 2010, 2:41 AM

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You just need to use a regular spark tester to determine how far the spark will jump to find out if you really have a spark problem or not.





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KBWood
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Jul 8, 2010, 3:49 PM

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I got a spark gap tester from advance today. It doesn't tell dummies like me what the letters and numbers on it mean (where you can roll the wheel to make the gap bigger. I set it around 1/4 inch. The coil wire had a nice output by eye that was also constant. The front 3 plug wires however, were a weaker spark that appeared to jump the whole 1/4" gap I had, but they were very intermittent.


Hammer Time
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Jul 8, 2010, 3:52 PM

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That should be able to jump 1/2" or more. The numbers on there are KV (kilo volt) That car should have 20 to 25KV. Make sure you have a good battery when you test it.



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KBWood
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Jul 9, 2010, 12:54 AM

Post #9 of 10 (1648 views)
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The battery read 13V on the Fluke multi yesterday...after a couple start attempts today it was still at 11.8....so battery is fine...I'll adjust the tester to a 1/2 inch later today and see what I get. By what I described though, is it possible it's in the cap, rotor, dist, etc. territory with the weaker spark test than the coil was?


KBWood
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Jul 11, 2010, 8:00 PM

Post #10 of 10 (1640 views)
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Well, like I originally thought..something got wet. It took days of testing ohmage and other parts of ignition system and whatever finally dried out one of the past days. No start any time I tried though, but all the attempts flooded the engine. I held the pedal to the floor to get the computer in what is called 'clear flood' mode or something like that....the baby fired up, blew a cloud of smoke, ran like crap for a minute, but then settled in. Problem solved, no parts bought except a $10 multimeter from Harbor Freight that will definitely come in handy for many things besides auto. Thanks for all your help before I got it figured out and this is the FIX posted for anyone that has this problem....this has to be common with a 95 in the Florida sun like where I'm at...the rubber at the windshield gets eaten up by the weather. I've sealed that sucker so no water gets in there anymore. Wink






 
 
 






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