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speed
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May 22, 2011, 2:04 PM

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well folks the car is at it again.
1996
chevy
camaro
3.8 v6
~150K miles

well the low oil light came on on my way to work so i took it up afterwards. gave it an oil change.
upon lifting the thing the car is just covered in oil. its everywhere, anything you can see on the front is convered. suspect is the main front bearing/seal....and who knows how many more... how big of a job am i getting mself into? can you list the procedure? and tips on this? any suggestions? thanks for any help guys. really need this forum right now.





GM ASEP 26 SCC Milford ASE certified in Brakes and Electrical on Thursday April 5th 2012

(This post was edited by speed on May 22, 2011, 2:04 PM)


Hammer Time
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May 22, 2011, 2:21 PM

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You first want to clean all that oil of and find out for sure where it's coming from. Leaks that bad and that fast usually come from a pressure point like the oil pressure sender.



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speed
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May 22, 2011, 2:23 PM

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will do tomorrow ill take brake clean to it like crazy. also as a side note, ive replaced my oil pressure sender twice in the past year, once was because i broke the irst one changing the filter way back when, second time was out of dads suggestions for god konws what reasons, teflon taped and everythign so im fairly sure its not the point of the leak, but i will check for sure tomorrow.





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Hammer Time
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May 22, 2011, 2:29 PM

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They don't leak at the thread. The oil breaks right through the sender and comes out the plastic.



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speed
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May 22, 2011, 2:30 PM

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i will go have a look see now, and be back momentarily.





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speed
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May 22, 2011, 2:57 PM

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no go, pulled it and it looks all hunky dorey. i do here suction though...im worried. ive got suction i can here around my water pump. its under my radiator i cant really pinpoint it at this point, but i know if got an intake problem now. it would explain why my car is giving me a code for my MAF sensor. heres my reasoning. its getting its primary intake from this leak, and since this leak is taking in air, my air intake is not being used right, so its not supplying my cylindes with the proper amout of air, thuis causing it to run rich, and also misfire greatly, since the maf sensor is getting a reading from the slight amount of air being brought through my intake, BUT this is no longer the "primary" if you will intake, its now a "secondary" and my car is not recieving the readings of the air being brought in by this "leak". woudl you agree or disagree? any suggestions? i do not know if this leak is going into my cylinders and acting like an intake or if it is going into my cooling system. and i know i need to pressure test the cylinders and all. i will, but what other things pop into the mind of hammer time and others here?





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speed
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May 23, 2011, 12:39 PM

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well i inspected it again when i got home form school moments ago. i started ti up went under the hood to find teh air leak, was listening and messing with the throttle. upon listening i happened to be look at my crank pulley....its all hunky dorey when it s idle...but when i mess with the throttle i can see oil spurting off tghe backside. i would assume this is a front seal problem....anyone have the procedure? also if you have the procedure for the idler pulley too, its shaking pretty bad when you rev it up it slacks my belt at least two inches when steppin on throttle and it will eventually tighten up but still it needs replaced. off to work, will check back when im off
thanks, speed





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Hammer Time
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May 23, 2011, 1:22 PM

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That's your oil pump behind that seal so it may be more than a seal problem.



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speed
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May 23, 2011, 6:35 PM

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what more you think is the problem? cuz while i got the crank out and doin the seal i plan on doing rings too, then ill go to the top end later on.





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Hammer Time
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May 23, 2011, 6:38 PM

Post #10 of 11 (1658 views)
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What does removing a crankshaft have to do with a timing cover seal ?



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speed
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May 23, 2011, 6:42 PM

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the guy at work said it was a front crankshaft seal....lol...also im unaware, of actual internals, going by gut instinct...obviously i am wrong. so timing cover seal. got it. now thats fine and dandy cuz i wanted to check the timing anyway. id say its due for a timing chain anyway because as far as i know it has never had one done and it has around 160k miles. so since its the timing cover seal, what do you think is my problem since my oil pump is there? are you saying that my pump is pushing too hard? i will say if your wondering why the seal went out its probably because my car has been overheated quite badly several times.





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