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pancho1
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Sep 30, 2011, 1:45 PM

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This vehicle I have has an EATC A/C system and it seems like the A/C is always stuck in the Auto mode. Therefore blowing air at different points, for ex. vents, then defrost, then floor. A local mechanic said it could be something not making correct contact at the control panel in the back, what do you guys think? Thanks.


Hammer Time
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Sep 30, 2011, 1:49 PM

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That is not how the auto mode works. You have an issue with the mode door that has to be diagnosed and resolved.



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pancho1
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Sep 30, 2011, 1:55 PM

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So it's the mode door, can you tell me where that is? And how would I diagnose it?


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Sep 30, 2011, 2:03 PM

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The mode selection is done through a series of air doors that are operated by vacuum. When there is either a partial or total loss of vacuum, the system will default to either defrost or on some vehicles, heat. Acceleration can also have an effect on the doors for the same reason.

Look under the hood for a small black plastic hose coming through the firewall. Follow it to the vacuum source looking for any breaks, cracks or leaks. Also follow any other lines that branch off because they may go to a vacuum reservoir (storage tank) and a leak there will cause the same problem. Using a vacuum gauge to determine if you have full vacuum at any given point is the best way to find it. You can cut into the line anywhere and splice it back together with a piece of vacuum hose. Find the broken line, you found your problem.



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pancho1
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Sep 30, 2011, 2:09 PM

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Thanks Hammer Time, I'll have to check that out, any other suggestions from anybody else would be greatly appreciated.


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Sep 30, 2011, 8:13 PM

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This is also another possibility.

They also had a lot of problems with the EATC control panel solenoids leaking inside the panel. Dealers would usually replace the panel, but someone has figured out how to replace the little o-rings in the solenoids to fix the leaks.

Google "EATC orings". There are a couple of sites that have information on repairing yourself and saving you bookoo dollars. If you don't feel like repairing it, you can always fork out $700 for a new one or take your chances with a junk yard one.

The four solenoid plungers in the lid half of the panel can be re o ringed:











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(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Sep 30, 2011, 8:22 PM)


pancho1
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Oct 1, 2011, 9:12 AM

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The mode selection is done through a series of air doors that are operated by vacuum. When there is either a partial or total loss of vacuum, the system will default to either defrost or on some vehicles, heat. Acceleration can also have an effect on the doors for the same reason.

Look under the hood for a small black plastic hose coming through the firewall. Follow it to the vacuum source looking for any breaks, cracks or leaks. Also follow any other lines that branch off because they may go to a vacuum reservoir (storage tank) and a leak there will cause the same problem. Using a vacuum gauge to determine if you have full vacuum at any given point is the best way to find it. You can cut into the line anywhere and splice it back together with a piece of vacuum hose. Find the broken line, you found your problem.

Got any pics?


Hammer Time
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Oct 1, 2011, 10:29 AM

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Picture of what, a plastic line?



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Oct 1, 2011, 11:22 AM

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Instead of ripping the car apart looking for a vacuum leak, have your mechanic connect a smoke machine up to the vacuum supply line at the manifold. Make sure they turn the vacuum check valve around when smoking out the system. You'll find the leak(s) a lot faster. Pull the EATC panel out and check for leaks in the panel also. We had one a month ago and thats how we found out the solenoids rings were leaking. You can also pull the vacuum harness connector off the back of the EATC panel and smoke out each individual vacuum actuator.





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(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Oct 1, 2011, 11:26 AM)


goat794
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Jan 24, 2012, 1:18 PM

Post #10 of 10 (10873 views)
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Thanks mr discretesignals for your help!!!! i pulled my atc control out of my 2003 mercury grand marquis and replaced the o rings on all 4 plungers with new o rings from graingers and the system works just like new.. outstanding thanks again. the repair cost me $7.50, the grainger part number is 1REC2 and comes with 100 o rings just fyi .again thanks so much for your time and help steveCool


(This post was edited by goat794 on Jan 24, 2012, 1:21 PM)






 
 
 






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