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speedspeed
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May 15, 2015, 4:44 AM
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hi
had a leak
has been repaired
will fill him with r134a I think it will need 0.5kg
howmuch oil does need to be added?
ps. its a ford probe
thank you
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Hammer Time
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May 15, 2015, 4:59 AM
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And this is why AC is not a DIY job. It requires knowledge and experience during the process to estimate how much oil has been lost. You don't even state what components were replaced. That has a lot to do with how much oil may have been lost.
Also, every question here needs to start with year, make, model and engine size.
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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on May 15, 2015, 5:00 AM)
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 15, 2015, 6:10 AM
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With HT also. First of all if conversion is correct .5 Kg (Kilograms) by weight is more than the whole system charge of oil! It would fail instantly with damage if you added that much.
Not DIY stuff sport. You need to either really have a good clue of how much oil was lost or start from zero and add specified amount from that or you don't know.
Just that to figure takes a lot of educated guessing if situation is known for a repair which you didn't state nor what year.
Take it to a pro stating what you did and how much you might have measured lost and see if they are willing to guess or flush it all out and start over and you wont like the cost of that,
T
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speedspeed
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May 16, 2015, 6:31 AM
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I never said 0.5kg of oil
I said 0.5kg of gas
all oil has been lost due to hose blowing
and no I do it myself since I have the equipment gas and spare compressors
ps. ford probe 1993 2500cc converted to r134a
(This post was edited by speedspeed on May 16, 2015, 6:33 AM)
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 16, 2015, 6:45 AM
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A sticker should state what the charge is underhood or could look it up if you know what year this unless it's a secret!
Oil added for something like that depends totally on "educated guessing." That would be based on any history of oil charged prior to this, how fast hose blew and was A/C even running at the time plus what mess it might have made if all at once from working properly. It would still be a guess but could get close enough.
For the refrigerant I list 40oz if it was OE R-12 or 28oz if OE R-134a. If converted to 134a would need to know which oil was used.
Sorry to come on abruptly with this but seems you don't have a clue and many don't so it's NOT a DIY project. The hose might have been easy that's all - the charge up should be sent out IMO still,
T
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Discretesignals
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May 16, 2015, 8:13 AM
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I'd say around 2 to 3 oz of PAG 46. Not all the oil in the system is going to come out. You'll still have some trapped in other parts of the system. When you get it back together and running check your high side pressure and make sure it isn't too high.
Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
(This post was edited by Discretesignals on May 16, 2015, 8:16 AM)
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Hammer Time
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May 16, 2015, 8:32 AM
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This system should have been factory with R134, not converted. 93 was the conversion year and Alldata says this came with R134. It makes a big difference in the refrigerant charge. Thew OE R134 charge is 28 ounces but if it was retro-ed from R12, you would use 20% less.
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speedspeed
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May 16, 2015, 10:19 AM
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alldata is complety wrong
93 was r12 and 94 was the conversion year to r134a
so when pulling vacuum not all oil will be out?
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Hammer Time
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May 16, 2015, 10:34 AM
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OH really? You sure about that?
You'd better check your info because you are the one that is wrong. 93 was a mixed year.
Your question about vacuum pulling oil out tells me you shouldn't be fixing this at all. Vacuum doesn't pull anything out but air.
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Discretesignals
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May 16, 2015, 10:58 AM
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Vacuum pump won't remove oil from the system unless the oil was to boil and turn into a vapor. Don't think that is going to happen.
Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
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speedspeed
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May 16, 2015, 12:00 PM
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yes I am 100% sure 93 was r12 and 94 was the turnover year
funny all these profesionals, the last time I brought him to a professional they converted him then within a month it was empty again
this time it was the condenser, after buying a new condenser and replacing him I found the "professional didn't tighten the new high side r12 to r134 converter properly" thus loosing my charge and letting me buy and fit a new condenser
so no thank you I will do it myself, and try to learn as much as possible
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Hammer Time
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May 16, 2015, 12:21 PM
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If you think there were no 93 vehicles using R134 from the factory, you are just an idiot.
It's pretty apparent that you think you know more than us and you don't need any help so we'll close this now.
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 16, 2015, 1:42 PM
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HT - 93........... See PM **********************
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