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Kevin15673
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I have a 1991 Subaru Justy (manual) where the 1st gear engages at the very top of the gate, and if I shift in while the car is moving then 1st just isn't there. It doesn't pop out of gear or anything, I'm thinking maybe a bent shift linkage or something. All other gears are fine.
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Hammer Time
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Jun 12, 2022, 3:49 AM
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Where is 2nd gear engaging? Is it also high on the gate?
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Kevin15673
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Jun 12, 2022, 9:08 AM
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I just went out there and noticed that 2nd is similar to 1st, a lot of the travel in the gate does nothing and at the very end you can push it and you can feel it click into gear, all other gears go in right when you push it into the gate. Except reverse, there's a hard block off stopping you from even trying to engage reverse.
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Jun 12, 2022, 9:24 AM
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That pretty much eliminates the bent rod idea because if the rod was shortened enough to cause the long reach for 1st gear, it would have moved 2nd gear the same amount forward.
Sounds like you need to look for wear somewhere, either in the shifter linkage or internal to the transmission.
What you need to do first is have a helper shift the car with the engine off while you are observing the linkage and looking for the free play.
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Jun 12, 2022, 9:52 AM
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Idea for you: Engine off, have a helper to shift it while you watch every action it makes and where. Under car (all caution to use jack stands please) and under-hood where it ends up.
OMG a '91 anything std shift millions of shifts by now. IDK and wouldn't know the fix but you see it and come up with ideas or wild maybe a kit to replace all it should be rubber or plastic somewhere or all over connections of rods/cables or what is used so less vibration shows up at the shifter inside,
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Jun 12, 2022, 10:26 AM
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I also have a 90 justy with more miles that shifts just fine, guess I could use that one as a baseline to see if anything looks bent or missing.
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Forget bent or missing. You are looking for worn out.
Like 2 people have already advised, watch the linkage while someone operates it and looks for parts that don't immediately respond to movement from a jointed part.
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Sounds good. You'd wouldn't know if that one had a kit or something already done?
Other thought: Go to where it turns at the trans underhood somewhere leave it off still and shift it from there.
IDK - I grease that stuff if found anywhere on any vehicle so even ancient now (these) are both newer than 3 of my own don't ever do that stuff.
Customers too during a lube, oil & filter, regulars if kept ages none of this stuff.
If you are the frequent or only driver of the hurting one I don't understand "bent" for anything hoping you don't force it or maybe knew you hit something or worked on something else caused something?
If you have two of these at this age you can't be any slouch with care for them!
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Jun 12, 2022, 2:21 PM
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I don't think the owner of the 90 justy cared enough to put new shift bushings or anything in it, they're hard to find in the first place. The guy I bought the 91 from did put a couple of new bushings on the linkage though, but not all new. The car also needs engine mounts pretty bad but I don't think that would cause as big of problems as I'm running into.
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Engine mounts THAT bad? Sounds beat on or perhaps oil of some kind got to them.
That would explain a lot if engine/trans can't stay within limits of its design it's pulling and pushing on anything attached to the rest of the body to include the shifter.
IDK if fixing those now would solve it or show the items that may be damaged? All mounts I know of even when mounts of the sort separate are still limited by metal inside or should have been thought of, maybe not?
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If the transaxle is shifting position it certainly WILL effect the shift linkage.
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The engine mounts aren't horrible, I've seen worse on these cars and the shifter still works just fine, I was gonna replace the mounts soon though.
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Just trying to keep hope it's something simple... I guess it would've made more sense for me to hope it's the engine mounts though since I'm replacing them anyways.
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First things first. Fix the mounts then find out what other items were ruined because of allowing that to continue. For a vehicle it's ancient so get used to now some insane care and be ahead or lose this thing as junk, few could care less about these anymore - I don't mean to insult you but WTF sport?
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