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Dale jr
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Nov 20, 2011, 11:40 PM
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92 Prizm 5spd transmission problem
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I have a problem with my 92 geo prizm 5spd manual, I could use some advice from someone knowledgeble about manuals. Thanks in advance for any light yall could shed. Ok it goes like this:
1. DURING cranking, in Neutral,(I bypassed clutch start switch long ago) the car races forward as if in gear and it will only stop rolling if I push in the clutch. Possibly Internally stuck in gear? How do u fix that?
2. My car is parked in the driveway on an incline without E-brake on and it wont roll backwards, I cant even push her down the hill??? Only when I push in the clutch will it move. Stuck in gear? But which gear?
3. And lastly, with the car off I can shift into every gear fine except the shifter will just barely seat into first.
I dont know jack, but Based on my limited knowledge this indicates to me the clutch is doing its job and the tranny is stuck in a gear, maybe internally. Is it possible, and how do I get it out of gear?
Additional info: 150k miles, 1.6 4afe toyota motor. clutch fluid is level and I bled the slave cylinder, no help, I put a new clutch assembly on 2000 miles ago. A-ok until now. Problem started after a burnout, tranny was about half full on gear oil when this happened due to leaky axle seal. I need to know if the tranny is shot so I can hold on to my$ and go pull another one, or if this is a clutch,fork,TOB, etc.issue. Thanks.
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Hammer Time
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Nov 21, 2011, 4:19 AM
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Sounds like you already have the right idea. The trans is stuck in gear. You can try manipulating the linkage to get it into neutral but be very carful if the car is not parked on level ground.
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Dale jr
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Nov 21, 2011, 4:35 AM
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Hi thanks for the imput, so when you say "manipulate the linkage", could you please explain to me what to do here? Appreciate it.
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Hammer Time
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Nov 21, 2011, 5:38 AM
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Go right to the levers at the transmission and see if you can shift it into neutral there.. You can observe the shift levers as someone tries to shift it from inside to see what the problem might be.
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Hammer Time
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Nov 21, 2011, 12:04 PM
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Maybe his user name says it all......LOL
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Dale jr
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Nov 21, 2011, 1:08 PM
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Ok to clarify, I burned out skipped first, hit second, third, fourth, neutral at stop sign, burn out again, and idont remember what gear I was in when it stuck in gear, but the gear shift isnt stuck, hence I dont know what gear its in. Anyway, I got out and checked fluid, and it had 1 qt. Should have 2. I knew I had a leak and I should have fixed it. Im an idiot. Live and learn.
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Nov 21, 2011, 1:25 PM
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Been there & done that.........It happens........The one plus in this, if you take it on & fix it you'll be getting some valuable experience....
Just by skimming your post, it really sounds like you have an internal problem. I'm not sure if this is driveable or not, really doesn't sound like it is.....
What I've seen with manuals that get jammed before. If you put it into another gear beside the jammed one, it usually binds & won't move. If you put it in to the jammed gear position, it will move or move with some noise...
You definitely want to make sure it isn't a linkage problem, but once that's confirmed, the quickest & cheapest solution would probably be a used tranny....
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Dale jr
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Nov 21, 2011, 7:47 PM
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Yep yep so im gonna do the swap. The pick n pull is doing 50% off this weekend. Ive done auto swaps a hundred times, nothing to it, but, really this job is kind of intimidating. How difficult is it in comparison?
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Dale jr
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Nov 21, 2011, 8:01 PM
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Oh and I heard corollas have the same trannys as geos. True? And what years will fit my 92 Geo motor? Thanks fellas
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Nov 21, 2011, 8:25 PM
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Those aren't too bad to do. Having a rack would make it nice, working on your back kinda sux....
This is a frt wheel drive, so the engine will need to be supported before the tranny is removed. OTC makes a real nice engine support for a couple of bills. I've seen guys use a couple of 2x4s going across both strut towers. I have a 4' water pipe I use as a cheater bar that I use to use before I got an engine support and that worked real well...
The main thing is,,,,, whatever is used,, is safe & secure.....That it's not going to go anywhere,,, because besides one frt mount, this is what will be supporting your engine...... I would really steer away from a floor jack under the oil pan.......I've seen that done as well but really don't like that setup....but that's just me......
Your Geo does have a Toyota drive train in it but I can't say for certain what is interchangeable & what isn't.....Most wrecking yards have interchange manuals and could tell you........I can't say for pick & pulls in your area but around here they don't have them, all the regular ones do though......... Hell here they won't even tell you if they have year & model you are looking for.....They want their $2 so you have to go look for yourself..........
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